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Old 7-04-2011, 15:52
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Our team seems to struggle with soldiers bombing me (the medic), especially at mid. Our soldiers aren't good enough to hit middies consistently, and devoting a scout to focus more on the bomber seems to give the enemy scouts a bit too much freedom.

Everyone is usually caught up in some sort of dm by the time the bomber jumps too, leaving me to dodge and hope the bomber misses. How should we be thinking about/dealing with this?

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Old 7-04-2011, 15:52
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There's a topic on dealing with jumpers on badlands mid which although being badlands focussed still has some suggestions from the mentors which can be applied more generally.
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Old 7-04-2011, 15:53
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maybe if you guys have some bombers of your own it will help take attention away so the enemy scouts dont have free reign

sometimes we do a rollout with a heavy(GRU), thats good for killing jumpers

sometimes as scout its difficult to kill the jumping soldier if the enemy teams demoman stickys your train. maybe your demoman is getting smoked and making it difficult for your scout to kill that jumping soldier

maybe your medic movement is predictable - american soldiers know exactly where they are going to RJ when they go valley if they see the enemy teams medic also going valley

whats your focus on trying to win the rollout overall?
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whats your focus on trying to win the rollout overall?
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Our soldiers play passively, our demo and scouts play a bit more aggressively and try to make something happen. Initially our scouts try to out-dm the enemy scouts, then switch focus to whatever's been called as low.

Sadly as a team we haven't put much thought into mid fights, as in what to focus and with what.
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Bowt covered the vast majority of tactics to deal with a jumping soldier, though generally speaking 1 scout should be fairly committed to dealing with potential aerial threats.

It is important to not overreact to a bombing soldier, often this in itself is his primary goal - actually killing anything is just a bonus.

Consider a team based positional solution. When vR* was sick of dealing with 2 all-in bombing suicidal gran soldiers landing on our demoman + medic from ALIVe every rollout, we just sent our medic and primary into right, and essentially sacrificed the demoman to get a counter clean up and win the rollout overall.
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Old 11-02-2012, 15:38
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your solder(s) should try and just use their shotgun instead of rockets if an enemy soldier is in mid-air/about to rj. example would be on badlands mid, where maybe you & your pocket soldier is on train and he spots a roamer getting ready to jump you from balcony/window or what ever it's called. i also see a few soldiers doing this in mge

hope this was helpful and my post is a tad bit late D:
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It's the actual game, not MGE.

Have an aggressive soldier of your own - enemy team is trying to force you to play passively. Don't fall into that trap
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Why use soldiers to shotgun bombers when scouts are better at doing that job... Yuki is right, if you sit back and deal with the bomber, then you don't do any damage to the important classes and they'll just walk at you and win with health advantage.
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