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Old 7-09-2013, 14:35
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QywhTDUrX-0

highly recommend anyone who is interested at improving at TF2 or games in general to watch at least the first portion of this interview

ddk (well known quake caster/player) talks in depth about how to approach improving and getting good at a particular game

really great information
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Old 7-09-2013, 15:21
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I find game theory really interesting.

One thing they don't properly cover in their discussion of game analysis and strategy is varied nature in games of information. Consider say their examples of poker and chess. One has perfect information and thus the potential for perfect decisions, while the other is wholly dependent on hidden information and your ability to gather any hints towards said information (reading tells, information betting) is key to the game's depth. Regardless, whether the information is trivial to gather but difficult to understand, or vice versa - you will never make good in game decisions with out sufficient information, even as the smartest player with hinesight. In single player games this often amounts to looking at the minimap, and in team games this often falls down in communication. As a caster It is always refreshing that you can look so much smarter than players better than you, not because your analytical ability is necessarily better, but because you have the luxury of constant perfect information. For what other reason then 'they didnt know' could the team with 40% uber advantage sit at badlands corner and wait defensively.

Another aside area that is really interesting in games is the use of random chance / luck. Again to look at both poker and chess, they sit at opposite sides of the spectrum without failing as viable professional games. The designer of M:TG gave a speech about luck in game design at one pint ill see if i can find a link later; and how it is often consdered critical for a games inception, but honers as a game matures will often enjoy seeing its gradual reduction. TF2 had this done quite intentionally over its release (crits, spread, etc).
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Old 7-09-2013, 15:32
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just spend 5k hours playing mge then ur the best
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listened to this some time ago it was interesting but ultimately quite abstract
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Old 7-09-2013, 16:33
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Really interesting points and ideas, definitely worth the watch
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Old 7-09-2013, 17:56
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not abstract at all

I think most people will find it hard to relate but this kind of thing but its basically the transition you have to make to become good at a game. alot of players can be mechanically good from playing alot but until you start to know how to think about the game and learn different options in situations you can never get really good.

games like quake and bw have alot more situations/decisions but the same thing exists in tf2

people still struggle to understand/ think about situations/the game
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Old 7-09-2013, 21:00
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6:59 PM - [sv] termo: u stealin my links m8
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6:59 PM - [sv] termo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECcokwYv9vY#t
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Old 9-09-2013, 10:30
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Related: last nights quake live faceit cup was casted by thorin and ddk and they touch on a lot of related subjects amongst the game commentary

http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/b/458323873
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Old 11-09-2013, 17:34
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great watch povohat

ddk and thorin discussions are always so interesting
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I just watched it. Very interesting thanks for the post. Watched my first quake match afterwards.
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Old 27-10-2013, 23:19
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really great information
Yes.
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