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congrats cash money.

a shame that we didn't get to see 2 bo3s

gg boys

congrats on the $$$

bump for awards!

Thanks to everyone for watching, congrats to all award winners

ggs
shoutout to brodogs for the coverage

upset it wasnt as close as the bracket finals, great to watch anyway

congrats to cash money!

looks like awards are pretty well deserved

As a casual observer, it is interesting to note after having a look through all the log parser details regarding contributions to team with kills and damage and things, that Yuki seems to be over looked in the scout award category?

Looks to me like he had a dominant season.

Is it cause he's expected to be the best and everyone is sick of seeing his name on the sidebar?

^ Stats don't mean everything m8. well done to cash money for the win, enjoy the moolah lads! Congrats to masif also for putting up a good fight and also to the award winners. It was fun to watch, cheers.

With matchmaking on the horizon, I'm already hyped for next season :d

I guess it boils down to what do you consider "best".

If it's meant to be best and fairest then you're right, but I stats do actually mean everything when it comes down to being the best.

If it was really close in the stats i could see it being a bit more subjective but from an external person that isn't involved with the personalities it looks like an absolute stomping by Yuki.

You win by capping points not getting frags, that makes it a bit difficult to judge the stats in this game.

was fun but the last round of gran was anticlimactic - seemed they were just on tilt.

Out of interest, what quantifies "best" in your world, ronnie? Is it all purely subjective? I guess it could have been a donkey vote by a team, probably pays me back for all the times I did it l0l. wh0 cares I guess lm40z0rz

Glad to see we were able to put on a decent game despite the multitude of class/role swaps during the season

yuki is a great player and would also deserve the award if that's how everyone voted..

however according to your logic, if you look at stats for a team that stomps another team 5-0 5-0 you would conclude that all the players on the team are the "best". stats give a decent indication of what happened during the game (one team gets rolled) but doesn't really do much justice to how effective an individual was for their team.

Maybe he sacrificed himself at the right times and opened up the space for his team to be effective and win etc. Point is that looking at stats purely should not be the mechanism that is used to determine the best player as there are many other factors involved, which may or may not be reflected accurately in stats.

Anyway good job to everyone, it was an entertaining season to watch and I hope great players such as yuki stick around.

yes

That's pretty much what happens in most sports unless someone on the losing side does something absolutely exceptional

which would most likely be reflected in the stats

bl to brutalix and his boys.
gw to james.

wheres logik when you need it.

This^

The awards don't mean anything anyway... it's basically a popularity contest filled with people who throw donkey votes.

gg Thanks admins and players, props to Kenneth for running it!

In prem once upon a time yeah, this was true. But in recent seasons I would say the prem awards have been pretty indicative of the truth (for the most part). It's relieving to see termo finally winning best demo though... it's been long overdue.

Regardless, fun season! Can't express how much the community appreciates the admins' efforts. Also, Brodogs thank you so much for all your casting work this season. Please keep it up!

So can the OWL die yet to be replaced by something *new* ?

We should replace you with something new.

This. dunno why people care about the votes any more, it's been useless since the beginning. the only person who actually cares is yuki, guy has his resume filled with his tf2 career LOL.


gg boys peace

I need the results on my fridge for validation

just like how you have a photo of lunch with 3 girls on your fridge

isn't it only normal??