ozfortress - team fortress 2 in australia

i think audio commentary would be better than listening to comms.

comms are very straight forward, just don't clutter make sure everyone is awake and realising when you are getting player deaths on either side, and then just have people to spot/recall advantages/disadvantages i think.

if there were commentary, then we would understand what bowt would be thinking at each position and what his team would do to counter any situations

There was also some stuff from TCM in there a while back. Also there is Jaegers commentaries of other peoples demos which are quite good.

no it was from team loaded which is coL now

still all useful for teams

something like this would be sweet too
http://www.livestream.com/squidearn

basically a live stream (+recording) from a personal view, with mumble (+recording)

I thought the point of watching other peoples demos was to figure out why someone did something for yourself and to evaluate the effectiveness of the play. In order for demos to be effective, you must remain objective. An audio commentary in my opinion would be very subjective and thus lose it's value.

My thoughts anyway...

rep has a point (+1)

eg if the person doing the commentary was saying that "i wouldn't do x in this situation" then some would be like "oh, ok". But you're always experimenting in this game, and doing x may give you the advantage you need, despite how unorthodox it may seem.

analysing what someone was doing and why is a skill you have to develop eventually.

I think this is akin to saying a classroom teacher only reduces the value of a textbook. Or a tour guide reduces the value of a piece of art. Perhaps it hold true in some instances on stinting the opinions via authority, but generally it is still very productive to enhance your own learning.

The objective of an audio commentary is more about using the specific situation as an example to gain insight into the basic thought processes on a higher tier player to point others in the right direction about how they could analyze many other situations.

Futhermore if we assume the mentor is at least somewhat competant, the poisoned agreeable viewer would probably still gain alot from emulating the situation better than they ever would, and the discerning player would be able to draw the opinion as one of many sources of idea.

dw m8c ill do a commentary 4 u

(not, i don't kno how 2 play game lah)

Great article on calling from Fish via VanillaTF2

http://www.vanillatf2.org/2011/09/as...-1/#more-19230

here's a snip:

Thanks for tbis helpful info I know this will help me and my mates TF2 Experience.