ozfortress - team fortress 2 and fortress forever in australia

What was once a legendary map, with the most coveted defensive position of all time, has now sadly become an overplayed and widely hated map. This was not always the case however

gogo date code ;/

Tried:

08 February 2000
8 February 2000
08 02 2000

Last one let me submit but the date is screwed ;(

k ill have to look into it

why are you reviewing old maps? when can we expect to see a 2fort review?

also, sd2 is probably the best tfc map ever made

From the staff forum...
So ultimately, why not?

I guess it comes down to how much free time you have on your hands.

sd2 was the last of the maps that was "required" to be reviewed.

If you want to review 2fort, go for it.

The general push was for maps that are in ozfl to be reviewed, from now on its a free-for-all (as far as I know, valk was planning this..)

2fort review will come soon enough too

and yes it is probably the best tfc map ever made, thats why i kept dribbling on about it.

2kfort5 has already been reviewed

well there ya go

the date coth uses 13th for double digits, i dunno about single digits

stowaway_l is best map ever ur all on drugs

stow sux, infact i take back what i said about sd2

Openfire was the best tfc map ever made, followed by sd2 then probably roasted

and dont say they suck just because youve played them a billion times (the last part is the reason why theyre so good!)

stow is a bad designed map :X

opf doesn't take much skill, unlike as sd2

and roasted is shit

roasted is well balanced but its just not very fun

openfire was a hard map to score on if you didnt have 4 attackers and was hard to defend if you didnt have 5 defenders. Most clans went 5/3 when it first came out and the score lines were usually low, 30-10 etc.

after being played to death players got better at it and started learning new tricks and moves, (remember when =BC=undz did all those cool concs which everyone does now?) and so the scorelines went up.

when openfire isnt played by 2 newb teams its one of the best games to watch.

i think opf first started being played 4/4 due to the arrival of chophop. teams started using it and would rip apart a 5/3 team using the chop. once it was banned however people continued using 4/4 and their concing skills have improved.

however i get the feeling that good clans might find 5/3 more effective than 4/4 if they could be bothered trying.

another leetpants review by spector (although he was right about it being overplayed, and i definitely hate it) - wd.

p.s i'm 90% sure i've seen screenshots for ff, so it is gonna get remade

I know we (BBQ) back in ozfl 1-3 tried to get 4/4 going but could never find a combination of defence that felt solid enough to rely on in games so tended to stick with 5/3. I guess it depends on the demoman you have. If hes a suberb demo ala gen then security is down a hell of a lot less so its easier. I know tech always used to go 4/4 and 4/4 vs 5/3 was actually really good.

So yer 4/4 works but its going to be a bit of a capfest.

P.S: Just cause a map is played alot doesn't mean it sucks, just means theres no creativity on the part of teams and their map selection.